actually it’s easy to do
If only workplaces would stop using WhatsApp.
I must say that American companies are getting better and better at making me ditch their products and services.
Art of the Deal at its finest.
Also cleaning the chat data doesn’t clear the AI memory. It will always remember what you say.
This seemed impossible so I went to verify it and got gaslit by a fucking machine. I hate this tech so much.
Since my Parents are only on that for chatting, I can’t switch. What options are there for me
Try to get them to switch to Signal if you can. I helped my 70+ year old mother switch with no problems because the UI is similar to WhatsApp and Telegram so it didn’t take her long to get used to it.
“I will delete my WhatsApp on -date- because I can no longer justify using a product made by a company, Meta, that is in such stark contrast with my ethics.
You can reach me via Signal, a messenger that works just like WhatsApp. It is very easy to set up, but I will gladly help you do so.”
What are they going to do? Not talk to you anymore because of a little piece of software that is so easily replaced? If so, is it even worth talking to them?
I used my Parents as an example, but its not just them. Some friends, Kolleges or other important folks are on there, and no not everyone will move just because of me. What I was hoping for was something like a Matrix Bridge for Discord. Something that allows you to acces and chat with whatsapp folks via a Different Messanger.
If you live in the EU, you will soon be able to message via a third party app to Whatsapp users thanks to the Digital Markets Act from last year. Meta said they’re planning to release this feature this year. However through this feature Meta will still be able to retain data about your messaging. And since Zuckerberg has now openly aligned himself with Trump, there’s a fair chance that data will be used against you at some point in the future.
I recommend you sever any ties to Meta and switch to a privacy focused messenger app like Signal. It has the same interface, but far stronger encryption and it’s open source.
What you were hoping for was no change in your life. You gave a scenario and a solution was provided to you. You’re taking no responsibility, and want no change in convenience. How can you expect the ignorant to move off of WhatsApp if even the informed won’t do it?
I did the method suggested above and the vast majority of my contacts eventually moved to Signal, those that didn’t switched to old fashioned SMS to contact me. You are not missing out by not being a part of one specific messaging app, there are many out there.
That would be Beeper but you have to be aware that you’re still using WhatsApp with all metadata collection involved
Very Nice thats Exactly what I was looking for! Gonna take a look at Signal and set it up together with that. Gonna also shoot a message to all my Contacts there to announce my sorta Moving. Should make people aware of alternatives while also not giving folks an Ultimatum. Thanks!
Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice to see that you’re taking some steps now.
But… you hadn’t even installed Signal yourself? So you didn’t even know how many of your contacts are already on there? Wtf dude?
I honestly haven’t thought much about switching from whatsapp. Here in germany its very ingraned into everyones life’s. This whole Meta AI thing gave me the realization that I really need to switch. Its just one of those things I didn’t give much thought about before. Suppose better late then never.
Your parents can use something else to message you, for other people they can switch to SMS in worse case, just uninstall the app with a goodbye message once you are not there there will be some real reasons for other people to join you elsewhere,
There was a time where there was no WhatsApp and no one died because of it, true there might be some extra inconveniences but the question is if you have the will to do the change, I deleted WhatsApp and things are OK so far I am not using Signal either, I use Delta Chat and email mainly
It is easy to disable, just follow this basic steps:
- uninstall WhatsApp
- install and use Delta Chat
- Enjoy 🎉
- You can’t talk with anyone, because no one uses your preferred FOSS, privacy respecting app.
- You try to convince people who don’t care about privacy to use some obscure app, with higher learning curve, and lack of features to comunicate just with one person.
You can suceed in some cases, but it’s not as simple, as just downloading privacy respecting app.
FOSS fanboys are so delusional they forget people don’t even care for their weird apps. And if I remember correctly, Delta Chat is for XMPP
Not really, I like Delta Chat because the usability, no other app gave me the same peace of mind and reliability in bad connectivity areas (which I find myself often)
As for the family and friends that use it with me, they certainly don’t use it because encryption and privacy, I don’t even advertise the privacy and freedom much or try to make them uninstall whatever other apps they use for chatting, they use it because it is the way to reach me and it solves a problem for them.
And Delta Chat is not XMPP, at least for now
I use Delta Chat exclusively to chat with my family, I don’t even have WhatsApp installed.
Delta Chat has most of the features you need for communication the only missing thing is integrated calls that cause the phone to ring, which is not a deal breaker for me since I don’t call often, used the jitsi meet integration once with them was a bit messy to get my mom etc to figure out how to use jitsi meet in the browser while explaining via voice messages in Delta Chat, but I think adding integrated calls is in the roadmap
10/10 foreveralone experience
@Comtief @adbenitez I think the best alternative to WhatsApp, which at least isn’t META and is relatively secure, is Telegram. The rest are difficult to use because they have few users.
Yes I use telegram daily, but generally everyone here where i live uses Facebook messenger.
My personal experience: 121 chats (just my family account I have several other accounts)
Idk why you are showing me this. I guarantee you that anyone I know has never heard of this app.
To show you that it doesn’t have to be a forever alone experience, in your case perhaps it will be, if you are the kind that have to run after the people close to you and accommodate to their requirements for them not to leave you behind and forgotten perhaps you are already alone…
I’m saying noone I communicate with in similar apps use Delta or whatever you call it. Idk how on earth your takeaway from this is that I wouldn’t move away from the bigger apps when my point is the total opposite.
Yeah and they will not know it exist until you try it out and let them know about the app and help them try it out and get in contact with you.
Unlike WhatsApp that has millions to throw in marketing, come preinstalled on devices and by know “everyone uses it” other smaller projects that are not making money out of you need your help to do the “marketing” part
I don’t know why you are telling me all this.
