As much as I like this approach, I want to hear if the author has at any time successfully sued anyone with it because I seriously doubt it.

If it quacks like a duck, and it walks like a duck…

Wait, not only are you misinterpreting what I said (I used alien.top as a case of for “admins will want to defederate because of resource abuse even when their own users find it useful” and less about “admins will ban any bot-only instance”) but your interpretation directly contradicts your first point.

And I bring up botsin.space as a bot-heavy instance which wasn’t widely defederated which obviuously proves you wrong on what constitures “resource abuse” enough to be defederated. I.e. you’re cherry-picking your example to prove your point. There’s a difference between an instance trying to duplicate all of fucking reddit, and 24 bots posting 2xday. FFS.

Yeah, you can add the “reasonable output” qualifier all you want. This would be a subjective point.

With botsin.space, we have a good example of what is reasonable to not be defederated.

And I am not arguing “everyone will defederate from instances running bots”.

This is exactly what you were arguing. There’s no reason to bring up alien.top otherwise.

This is not an hypothetical scenario. It happened with alien.top.

I am not going to argue this point. My only point in this discussion is that one can safely self-host bots with a reasonable output and have little chance of being widely defederated. I merely wanted to debunk your argument that self-hosting such bots would be de-federated by everyone.

You’re arguing with a right-libertarian, FYI. This should explain some of their positions and arguments better.

plenty of instances have mastodon.art and tech.lgbt defederated. So what? Your point was that it would be widespread, which was factually not the case. It was nowhere widespread and I know this because I was using it for my bots and could see their reach.

It seems the dev just wanted to run it as a personal fork and never understood the reason for the pr standards in a collaborative environment

I wasn’t supporting an alternative. I was merely pointing the lie in your statement that having bots in one’s instance is grounds for massive defederation. Don’t try to divert.

Botsin.space existed for a long while and wasn’t widely defederated. Just saying…

While this seems better than a lot of others, these types of systems are very easily manipulated by mass media, so functioning inside capitalism is already a massive problem. In any case it’s difficult to judge the efficacy, only with one rich protected nation as an example. The biggest thing is that labour is pacified a lot by a high standard of living, which is supported by the imperialism of the other nations supporting them.

I’m not familiar with it

The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy

Clarification: Representative/Capitalist democracy. Not all types of democracy.

It’s never “too late” Btw. Far more brutal and regressive regimes have been brought low by labour action. Just an indefinite general strike will collapse them in weeks if not days. Never despair to this extend. Agitate and organize

Should be 12 hours, unless they explicitly prevent us from accessing their nodeinfo. Which now that I think about it, I should probably notify on.

I want to see it per-community. We use voting for actually decision making in my instance, so we can’t disable it instance-wide.

Edit: It is now open for both of them, or was already. I checked the Fediseer page for both instances and it still says that their registrations are closed.

Fediseer doesn’t check constantly btw.

No Port-knocking? Amateurs! /s

The growth in 2025 has been staggering, ngl. And this is the kind of thing which converts from a trickle to a tsunami very quickly. It never happens with one shock. But a consistent amount of enshittification shocks. Reddit’s desperate struggle for profitability practically ensures those will keep happening, so this is all inevitable at this point. The only thing that is uncertain is whether digg can recapture the fleeing masses who are not cognizant of the dangers of corporate vc-backed enshittification yet, like bluesky did to Twitter.