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  • But I honestly wouldn’t say they are keen to cooperate with the AfD, especially as long as it is possible to achieve their goals with a partner as malleable as the SPD.

    That’s the key condition. As soon as other partners aren’t willing to give them what they want, they will not hesitate. They have literally just shown us that they won’t. Those votes were a power play by Merz to signal to the SPD they shouldn’t be too confident in their position as the only possible partner. That only makes sense if he’s willing to go through with it.

    Of course they are telling the public now that they won’t do it. About three years ago Merz told us anybody who cooperated with the Nazis in the slightest would be excluded from the party the next day. I may have missed all the exclusions, but actually I think you cannot trust one word this man says.

    Also it’s not even a sure thing that Merz will be in charge for the next election. The “first row” in the CDU took a big step back when it came to posts in the new government, possibly because they are gambling it won’t make it for the full 4 years. And if it doesn’t, it’ll be Spahn or one of the other extremists next.

    Last time the Nazis came into power the conservatives acted in the same way and they will do it again. It’s a property of conservatism, not of the individual actors. You can see that in other nations, the USA are only the most recent example. Conservatives will help anybody to power as long as it means they can avoid taxing the rich.



  • Merz hat gone from “firewall” over “ah, let’s not fuss over state level cooperation” to literally inviting them to help him win a vote against the old federal government in a time span of less than 4 years. CDU/CSU representatives didn’t abandon him over this, so I have to assume they are ok with it.

    Spahn (new conservative faction leader, one of the most powerful positions in the next parliament) publicly calls to treat them like any other opposition party (that would logically include being open to a coalition).

    Many other prominent conservative figures are actively working to adopt and normalize AfD positions in their policies, which is how the public gets prepared to be more open to the idea.

    You have to actively want to not see it to be able to ignore the writing on the wall. They absolutely will do it as soon as it appears beneficial to them.


  • Outgoverning them means nothing at all. It’s an empty phrase that sounds good, many people would instinctively agree to, but no two of them interpret it the same way.

    Of course they could have outgoverned AfD. They had 10 years for that. People are frustrated because they see their situation only getting worse with every year, and that’s the soil fascism needs to grow. So the way to work against them is to implement policies that help people, not billionaires and corporations. Lower taxes for the lower classes, tax the rich, build affordable housing and invest in public transit. Keep cartels from price gouging on groceries.

    But these are not the policies Dobrindt has in mind. when he says “outgovern AfD”. And that’s why conservatives will never be able to lower fascist vote counts by “outgoverning them”.