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Code - https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website
Community - https://lemmy.world/c/PurchaseWithPurpose
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve!
The companies below have proven to be reputable and worth supporting.
Spotify
Pays artists $0.0003 per play
Shows ICE ads
Says something about see deep dive for disclaimer, but I don’t see a link in the post body. But interested to see what’s on there.
Edit: found the link
Warning
They pay significantly less royalties, promote AI music, and platform podcasters who spread misinformation - context: https://t.ly/spotify-history. They do offer a superior service, but some people choose not to support them for these reasons.
Yeah so, that doesn’t align with “reputable” and “worth supporting”.
Apple Music is actually better than Spotify, which deserves to sit on the left too along with the American options (no, I wouldn’t move Apple Music to the right)
Unless someone ruins tidal by commenting below, I love tidal.
They pay their artists more
Tidal is great, and their “share with anyone” feature is just flat out 12/10, but I recently moved to Qobuz (French) because they pay the artists around 4 times more than Tidal does. And they’re European.
I appreciate the share with anyone feature as well. I have a few friendships that are largely based on testing cool songs back and forth. This way the only inconvenience is me getting inbound Spotify links.
Artist pay is actually a big factor in comparing the Music Streaming options, with high royalties being a special shout-out. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/category/music-streaming/
Yeah I’ve been looking to get off Spotify for a while now. Was shocked to see it recommended. It’s a shame tidal removed their “connect” feature, it would have made it so easy
I just checked and the Connect feature in Tidal appears to still be there. I don’t use it though so can’t say for sure.
I switched from Spotify to Tidal and I’ve been really happy with it, but it’s of course American. Deezer and Qobuz aren’t worthwhile Spotify alternatives.
You aren’t wrong. I went back and forth on whether to include them. The reality is that everyone knows Spotify and far better to educate people on why NOT to support them (hence being red and with a disclaimer).
Link for ease of reference for others. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/D5JUoM1dZysf7JJgTAWXy/
Oh, how I WISH Qobuz gets the same excellent feature as Tidal has - when you share a link to an artist/album/track from Tidal, and someone else clicks it, two things can happen:
- If they have Tidal, it will just open the artist/album/track in the app.
- If they don’t have Tidal, it will open a Tidal-hosted page with links to the shared content on YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, and a couple of other streaming services.
It just magically solves all the issues with people not wanting to switch because they like sharing their music.
I also found Tidal had the edge in user experience. I’m wondering how Deezer competes, as that is the next one for me to try.
I tried Deezer and Qobuz before choosing Tidal. Deezer music recommendations were barely adequate, but the real dealbreaker for me was their piss-poor Android app. The app seems like it was designed more than a decade ago and never updated, and the in-app navigation is frustratingly unintuitive.
And your thoughts on Qobuz?
I really liked everything about Qobuz except for the recommendations. I swear there’s no algorithm used, it’s completely random. I’d be listening to deep house and it would give me crazy suggestions like Frank Sinatra and aboriginal didgeridoo music, nothing related to house. This was back in March. I’d give Qobuz another try if they did a ton of work on their recommendations.
People increasingly want their voices heard and are taking action by choosing the companies they support.
These can be due to privacy concerns, environmental reasons, boycotting US companies, or other causes.
Doesn’t the premise imply that Spotify should be in the left column instead then?
The service being “superior” or convenient is counter to the argument.
Personally, I would have them on the left column, but there is a general divide in the EU community on whether they should still be encouraged as a “lesser of two evils”. As a compromise, I have left them in with a huge disclaimer. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/software/D5JUoM1dZysf7JJgTAWXy/
Gotcha. Thanks for explaining.
I would add Librewolf in the browsers and Searx in the search engines.
Honestly if you have to put american things in the change columns then swap spotify and youtube music, spotify is just soo bad
They are there! In fact, Librewolf is listed first as an excellent privacy option - https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/category/browser
Isnt it just a Firefox “fork” with all already available privacy options on ? Is it better than Firefox arkenfox.js ?
arkenfox.js
I believe it is on a similar level, but don’t quote me on that. They are both featured by privacytools and privacyguides. I’ll look to add arkenfox as that was missed.
I appreciate the transparency in this post but I find it odd there are so many American/Canadian options in the change to column.
Why do we hate canada now?
I don’t hate Canada but the sub is buy European… and Canada isn’t in Europe
Not with that attitude.
They’re basically still a british colony
We don’t in fact there are many excellent Canadian options highlighted. And I even had a Canadian version :)
I decided to highlight rather than remove, so people can see how it compares to their US counterparts. It is also partially due to the effort required to maintain another full version. The most significant driver for this is to encourage people to move away from Big Tech, and a secondary driver is to move to EU-based tools.
Why? The US is where a lot of technology innovation was directed for a lot of the things being discussed here, so it’s kinda limiting to leave them off. Not every US company is bad.
In the os category, it honestly feels odd that they’re going by the distro location, when every alternative they list is based on Linux, which is just as American as firefox.You might prefer the standard version then - https://www.purchasewithpurpose.io/.
I agree that the OS section needs a lot of work.
I got to the bottom of the image and Lemmy and Piefed not even on there, ha wtf. I’d add Migadu for email and Kagi for search, both very good value.
Kagi is there for search - will look at Magidu.
P.S. Kagi is US-based, but I personally use them.
Why is there no section for alternatives to reddit? We should really push more people into the fediverse.
Vivaldi Mail beats Proton and Tuta because Vivaldi strongly opposes cryptocurrencies / pyramid schemes, the others support it.
Vivaldi mail requires you to be an “active community member” in the Vivaldi community
Tuta and Proton are a no-go for me for free tier (or at all) allowing me to use third party software for their email. I like to use Thunderbird and Vivaldi’s email client to combine my inboxes. Unfortunately that doesn’t work with Proton and Tuta.
Vivaldi mail requires you to be an “active community member” in the Vivaldi community
Shit, didn’t know. Thanks for pointing that out.
I recently got into Vivaldy myself and was bummed to find that out
i don’t use vivaldi mail (aside from the mail client in vivaldi) since i use my own domain but wouldn’t just using social.vivialdi.net count for that? if you’re using mastodon anyway, at least…
Dude, where has libro.fm been?! That’s the type of thing I have been looking for recently. DRM free downloads and a portion of sales supporting a local store.
Check out Librivox too
One of my favourite finds! Their apps are also fantastic… and an obligatory fuck Audible.
How about startmail for email from the Netherlands
Startmail is there on the site! Just too many good options to include in the infographic. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/category/email
Hmm…maybe a deeper dive into each of the categories would be better
maybe
Planning on adding to the website every week so will look into that
The guide doesn’t say what greyed out means. I thought it was for american companies but there are canadian, australian, and eu things greyed out too.
I made a mistake on Vivaldi, but the others are because they are non-EU owned. The website separates the HQ and ownership better, which helps explain this. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/
It’s not really a mistake with Vivaldi - sure, it’s an EU-based company making an EU-based browser, but they are using Chromium, which is majority controlled by Google.
That is a big part why Firefox and Firefox based browsers are so heavily favoured on the website.
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Thanks @ooli3@sopuli.xyz for sharing my guide. Below is the text that followed the original.
I shared a version of this guide earlier this year, but felt a website was needed to unpack the different options fully. So after an unreasonable number of hours, I put together the necessary data and website.
I hope this is digestible enough for the average person to help those looking to take that first step, or for people who are equally passionate and want to get their friends or family involved.
Details:
- Site - https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/
- Code - https://codeberg.org/purchase-with-purpose/pwp-website
- Community - https://lemmy.world/c/PurchaseWithPurpose
Every time I post these guides, there is always feedback on things that can improve, or I got wrong. Please do share, as it is the best way for these to evolve!
I see there are several comments! I’ll go through it now and respond.
thanks for the guide. Hopefully it will channel millions from greedy business to more sensible companies
Okay, one questian. What about mega.io? I never see anyone talking about them, neither negatively or positively. Are they ok for folk around here, non-foss aside?
Isn’t that the descendant of Megaupload?
The pricing looks good to me… and also the scrolling animation on their webpage.Eyup, it is. I like the plan I have with them, just curious of public opinion…which there seems to be none xD
Another paid search option is Metager - since Mullvads Leta shut down, i looked for something to switch to and Metager fits the bill: no tracking shit, no ads, a good search with working blacklists, and a configurable cost for the search depending on which indexes you want to use and if you want to use search suggestions. It also taught me to use search shortcuts which i was too lazy to use before - no need to use my tokens when i know i want a wikipedia result.
Metager is an excellent choice, and I do my best to explain to those the difference between it and a standard search provider. https://purchasewithpurpose.eu/category/search-engine
KAGI use russian yandex index.
Among many others. Google, Bing, etc.
Anyone tried https://www.navidrome.org/ for self hosted music streaming? Haven’t yet myself
Yes, it’s great. I mostly use symfonium for listening. Big recommend.
Is it worth paying for Symfonium? What are the benefits?
It’s a paid app with a free trial, so the benefit is the app. I haven’t been using it long. My trial just expired and buying was a no brainer. It’s a one time purchase for life, amazing deal so far. Absolutely as slick as Spotify/ tidal and way more customizable UI. I listen to music all day and I’ve never been this pleased with a setup.
It would be nice if it were open source, maybe when the dev stops wanting to maintain it he’ll open it up but he’s pretty on top of things right now. Can’t really complain.
Great, thanks for the reply
I second this, navidrome\symfonium is a fantastic combination. Navidrome is super easy to set up, and Symfonium is a tinkerer’s wet dream
Using it since a year or so. It’s great ! Your experience will differ depending on which app you will connect to your instance.
I didn’t used it but i once saw a video about it, it’s great
I’ve recently switched to Vivaldi on Android because Firefox was constantly just janky for me. Now I’m testing it on Linux too, the included email client is a great perk. Too bad it is not fully open source (the UI stuff is proprietary).
Maybe give Iceraven a try. Its a FF Android fork and works with lots of add ons that regular FF android does not offer for some reason.
https://github.com/fork-maintainers/iceraven-browser
Edit:
To be clear, Iceraven does not magically make all add ons usable. But more than regular FF android anyway. From their Readme:
Our goal is to be a close fork of the new Firefox for Android that seeks to provide users with more options, more opportunities to customize (including a broad extension library), and more information about the pages they visit and how their browsers are interacting with those pages.
Notable features include:
about:configsupport- The ability to attempt to install a much longer list of add-ons than Mozilla’s Fenix version of Firefox accepts. Currently the browser queries this AMO collection Most of them will not work, because they depend on code that Mozilla is still working on writing in
android-components, but you may attempt to install them. If you don’t see an add-on you want, you can request it.
I was using the addons I need on my Android Firefox. That part was great. I think most of my issues were more due to the browser engine lacking behind on Android and just feeling janky compared to how smooth and well functioning Chromium based browsers were.
I’ve tried a few Firefox forks on Android here and there and it was usually a few improvements here and there but overall the experience was similar.
A big recent issue was that Firefox initially loaded for a really long time so doing a quick search was anmoying the first time I launched it. Another issue was how often Firefox was killed in the background. That’s partly due to Xiaomi and Android, but for whatever reason even mega bloated chromium browers don’t do that. Then bunch of small issues like browser theme not changing with the rest of the system or changing partially that suddenly I had white on white or black on black and I had to kill Firefox to fix the issue. The Android experience has always been janky for me with FF and I’ve used it for idk as long as I remember it being on Android
I am.sorry to hear this. But I feel your pain. A few years ago I had a phone where some apps just where buggy as hell for some reason. There are so many factors contributing to app stability on Android:
- Android version
- Possible customisations from the phone manufacturer (bloatware, battery optimisations etc.)
- Phone hardware, especially working memory and CPU
My current phone has 8 GB working memory and like 40 GB free memory available. It also runs a approx. five year old LineageOS installation, upgraded each year as stated on their website. Currently its LineageOS 22.2 (android 15).
All of this may or may not have great impact on how well FF Android runs.
love vivaldi; i found the built in blocker is so much better than ublock, epecially if you edit your sources and add in easylist or the other ublock filters.
i just wish vivaldi android would get extensions.
You can use ironfox in android. Librewolf would be me choice for desktops












